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mojones,
ok ...ahem.....Marciano beat Louis but Louis was on his way out an was an old man an Marciano a young man...in fact Joe mighta had some hair on the top of his head gone by then...thats how old he was.....but when the knockout came an they counted Louis out Marcianos trainer manager whatever was running around sayin they had beat the great Joe Louis but Louis s manager said that they beat the ghost of Joe Louis....they had a video bout between Marciano an Clay in the middle late sixties when Ali was banned from boxing....so they fought rounds but never really hurt each other.....they had three scenarios of the end...Marciano winning......Ali winning an a tko by Marciano....i already knew they were going to use the Marciano winning the fight one......i think it might be a tossup....if it went the distance then Ali would win......but there is a case of if it did not go the distance then Marciano won...for he had a real punch.....like i said if Ali had not been banned from boxing then he woulda beat Frazier....and he woulda broke Louis record for the longest crown held..but thats history...

Appaloosa,
I remember watching that Marciano/Clay thing on tv when I was a kid but had no idea how it was made...there was no love for Ali in our house when I was younger but learned to respect his career and bravery for standing up for what he believed in and not backing down as I got older.
I've got a boxing video narrated by George Foreman who tells a story about Joe Louis being in the bathroom at Madison Square Garden and looking up to see two kids watching him sitting on the toilet from over the top of the stall, when he was done he went out and talked to the boys and gave them each a dollar, supposedly one of those boys was Rocky Marciano who originally told the story and later said it was one of the saddest days of his life when he beat Joe Louis in that fight...Joes my favorite boxer, we went to Arlington National Cemetery but got there too late to find his grave.

walrusjk,
great topic.

hellifiknow,
it was computer made.......they fought the rounds on film but the computer was used to i guess make it look like they were fighting....i remember Marciano said that one day they went in there to spar an Clay at the time was like okay i will produce an Marciano said he thought he would win but Clay came at im with swish ...swish.....about seven punches right at him in a row an Marciano said that was so fast he dint know what to do.....Marciano was a class act though.........he had a short career but he did it without a loss........an when he left.....he left for good an did not mar that record.......an that was good.....for you would really hate to see a late loss that had to fight yanno....so stop it now...im gettin misty...... :lol:there was one scene where Ali went to the airports with a tape on his mouth cause he was runnin his mouth too much....imagine that....but there was one white guy that had two boys he wanted Ali to meet them an shake thier hand ....an the guy said that he never liked Ali or what he was doing but he wanted his boys to grow up like him an if they beleived in something then be behind it an stick to it....thats when he was banned from boxing....i thought right on man