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Re: Bad News the Papers don't want you to know...

by Visitor » Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:15 pm

dumbass,

"Father, why are soldiers killing and dying in Iraq?"

"For freedom, son. It's just part of our 'War on Terror' that began when they killed three thousand Americans a year and a half ago."

"Iraq killed three thousand Americans?"

"Well, no. Actually, it was an organization called al Qaeda, led by Osama bin Laden."

"So, then why are we at war with Iraq? We should declare war on al Qaeda, no?"

"We did, son. We bombed the heck out of Afghanistan. The Taliban are history."

"Afghanistan? The Taliban? Who are they? What about al Qaeda?"

"Oh, they got away."

"Huh? So, they're hiding out in Iraq?"

"Actually, no. Saddam and Osama are mortal enemies. I think they think Osama fled to Pakistan."

"So, we should declare war on Pakistan, yes?"

"Heavens, no. Pakistan is our friend. Besides, they might use their weapons of mass destruction. We wouldn't want that."

"Oh. So, then why are we going to war with Iraq?"

"Because they might have weapons of mass destruction. And they are not our friends."

"You mean... like North Korea? Does that mean we are going to war with North Korea?"

"Not at all, son. We already fought them along time ago. And we won... I think."

"Hmmmm... I see. But, then, what about al Qaeda, Father?"

"Who? Oh, right. They'll probably attack us again while we're busy fighting in Iraq."

"Oh, okay. I think I finally understand. Father, you are an idiot."

Re: Bad News the Papers don't want you to know...

by Visitor » Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:31 pm

Jennifer,

Sept. 15, 2004
AP

NEW YORK - Suggesting the government was acting as if it had something to hide, a federal judge Wednesday gave Washington one month to release records related to the treatment of prisoners in Iraq.

U.S. District Judge Alvin Hellerstein chastised officials for moving at a "glacial pace" in responding to nearly year-old Freedom of Information Act requests from the American Civil Liberties Union and four other watchdog organizations.

"If the documents are more of an embarrassment than a secret, the public should know of our government's treatment of individuals captured and held abroad," Hellerstein wrote. "We are a nation that strives to value the dignity of all humanity."

The groups brought a lawsuit in June, saying they wanted to expose the treatment of detainees.

Hellerstein said though the government had raised "important issues" of national security as a reason for the delays, "merely raising national security concerns cannot justify unlimited delay."

Megan L. Gaffney, a spokeswoman for federal prosecutors in New York, declined to comment.

Jameel Jaffer, an ACLU lawyer, was heartened by the action.

"Increasingly, the administration's response to requests has been to stonewall or delay as long as possible until documents are forced out of them by a court," he said.

Re: Bad News the Papers don't want you to know...

by Jennifer » Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:50 pm

astonamous,
fantastic...hope his world is caving in...

Re: Bad News the Papers don't want you to know...

by Visitor » Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:18 am

"War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses.

I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a nation comes over here to fight, then we'll fight. The trouble with America is that when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag.

I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.

There isn't a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It has its "finger men" to point out enemies, its "muscle men" to destroy enemies, its "brain men" to plan war preparations, and a "Big Boss" Super-Nationalistic-Capitalism.

It may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty- three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.

I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service.

I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912 (where have I heard that name before?). I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.

During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."

-- Excerpt from a speech delivered in 1933 by Major General Smedley Butler, USMC.

http://www.fas.org/man/smedley.htm - http://www.fas.org/man/smedley.htm'

Re: Bad News the Papers don't want you to know...

by Jennifer » Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:38 pm

Visitor,
oh lord-that's wonderfully tragic-

Re: Bad News the Papers don't want you to know...

by bingolong » Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:14 pm

Visitor,
:X ]:o(

Re: Bad News the Papers don't want you to know...

by Visitor » Wed Sep 08, 2004 1:21 pm

Re: Bad News the Papers don't want you to know...

by Visitor » Wed Sep 08, 2004 12:25 pm

astonamous,

"Shocking revelations," said Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe about the release of two dozen new documents related to George W. Bush's service in the Texas Air National Guard.

McAuliffe and General "Tony" McPeak held a conference call today to highlight the new information about Bush's Guard service. The new documents were released because of a lawsuit by the Associated Press and highlighted in an article published this morning by the Boston Globe.

"For years, Bush has been claiming he met his obligations [to the Guard]," McAuliffe said. "George W. Bush has either lied or he has severe memory loss."

General McPeak, who led the Air Force in the first Gulf War and who supported Bush in 2000, said, "At a minimum, the President and his spokesmen have not been candid with the American people."

"It goes to the credibility of George W. Bush, to the credibility of the Commander-in-Chief," said McAuliffe. "Bush's activities 35 years ago goes to his credibility today -- Bush mislead us about weapons of mass destruction, about the deficit, about fulling funding Leave No Child Behind, about fixing the healthcare system. George W. Bush has not been truthful from the start."

* * *

"The Associated Press, after being told by the White House in February that it had released all of the President's military records, inexplicably got a new batch of documents from the Pentagon on Tuesday. Nicholas Kristof, columnist for The New York Times, who had not previously written on this subject, nailed the first major interview with Bob Mintz, an Air National Guard lieutenant colonel who claimed he never saw Bush report for duty in Alabama," reported Editor and Publisher.

As Joe Conason wrote in February, "George W. Bush lied about his military service record."

"Earlier this year, President Bush told the nation 'I did my duty' in the National Guard in 1972 when he was supposed to report for service. But according to a major new report, that is not true."

Re: Bad News the Papers don't want you to know...

by Jennifer » Tue Sep 07, 2004 5:21 pm

Visitor,
here's something to ponder:
Young poor white and black men in this country fighting for the rich corporations...doesn't it remind us of the Civil War-where the COnfederate army was filled with poor young southern men who went off to fight for the plantation owners inorder that they themselves would continue to be replaced by low wage earners-SLAVES...???
:X
damn-it's starting to feel like the old south in this fucking country...and we are all the slaves to the big fat rich white corporations...

Re: Bad News the Papers don't want you to know...

by Visitor » Tue Sep 07, 2004 8:15 am

Visitor,
I am watching Rumsfeld giving a press conference right now and he just said "The war in Iraq has not created terrorists." MY FUCKING GOD!! How does lying come so easy to these fucks? That is an out and out LIE. Hundreds, if not thousands of young Arab Muslims throughout the Middle East have joined various terrorist groups or the Iraqi resistance SPECIFICALLY because of the US invasion of Iraq. That has been reported and verified for well over a year. And now Rumsfeld comes on TV, looks us in the face and denies it? I HATE THESE FUCKING LIARS!!! THEY HAVE GOT TO GO!!! ]:o( ]:o( ]:o(

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