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Re: Ladies... What do you want?

by tis2flyyy » Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:18 pm

deepseas,


Good one. Thanks for saying that.

ATTENTION LADIES:

FLAG THIS THREAD!!!!!
It is some serious GOOD shit in this thread for the ladies. Keep it and refer to it often. I know I will.

Re: Ladies... What do you want?

by Visitor » Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:37 am

All,

An abusive, irresponsible man was most likely abused himself - by his parents, society or even his woman. We don't know what happened to him, but just know that babies are not born to abuse others.

An abused, pitiful woman (some of us have been there, right?) was most likely abused herself. If our self-esteem is so low that we select abusive men to be with, then we are merely co-abusers. In other words, we don't know what real love and companionship is, so we seek out the same type of relationships that we learned from our parents. In this case, we cannot blame anyone for our poor selection process.

Therefore, we must recognize that these abusive people we have allowed to enter our lives says alot about who we are. We must make a decision to accept this person as they are, or release them back to the Universe with a blessing.

Once we are enlightened and wiser in our decision-making process of selecting mates and friends, abusive people no longer enter our protected environment. They move away from us, get out of our way or they may seek us out for help.

LOVE 101

We are merely attracted to that which is like us. Like seeks like. As we look around at our friends and acquaintances, we can tell alot about ourselves. I know that many of the friends I had at 16 are nothing like the friends I have now. That's because I have changed and grown.

So rather than bash some or all men as being no good, I choose to take a look at myself and ask the question: are the men I select a mirror reflection of what I am about?

I'm at a point in life where I see very few differences between men and women. Sure, there's the sexual, physical and hormonal differences. But I'm talking about the basics: the need for love, understanding, friendship and that sort of thing. In that sense, we're all the same.

If we want men to treat us like queens, then we must act like a queen and treat them like a king. It goes both ways. Meet them halfway. Sometimes a person can only do 20%. But if 20% is all they can do, accept that and know that when they are able to do 80%, they most likely will. Reward the little things a man does, and he will begin to do bigger and bigger things as time allows. It's human nature.

And we women must stop giving away so much of ourselves in the beginning of a relationship. That's why we get so angry. Angry at ourselves for putting out so soon -- in many ways. When meeting someone for the first time, start with a meeting at a coffee shop, library, museum or someplace inexpensive. Neither party should feel they lost much if the date doesn't work out.

Dress appropriately for the occasion. Dressing sexy right away sends a certain message. If the man comes on to us, do we have a right to condemn him for acting like a bow-wow-wow-yippee-yo-yippee-yay? Allow the date to get to know YOU, the inner you, the spiritual you, not your body. Surprise him on a 4th or 5th date by wearing something sexy. You'll blow him away!

And forget that other women are dressing with butt beaters. If your date keeps his eye on them instead of you, then he's not for you. All that glitters is not gold and you know that. But if he doesn't know that, then your flags should go up immediately. And if he has substance, he will see your beauty no matter what you are wearing.

I don't believe in competing with other women. I've never had to, because I know who I am and the qualities I bring to the table. Build up your self-esteem and think about why anyone would want to be with you. Is it your charm, grace, sense of humor, intelligence, kindness, conversation, talents? My gift has always been my sense of humor and ready smile. I have always known that since I was a child, and at 55 I still share that gift with others - men, women and children. And it still works for me! :)

All that glitters is not gold...

Men need to start thinking with the head on the top, not the other one. Sure, women are built to the hilt these days and wearing sexy clothing is exciting. But think about this: what is she trying to sell or attract? If you are looking for a serious mate, can you see your wife or child's mother dressed like this? Are you able to get passed the body and clothing to this person's inner essence? The essence that you hope will make you happy and fulfilled for the rest of your life?

If you're out there to play and have fun, be sure you send that message to women. In this way, you will attract only the players to you. You dont want to attract serious women who are looking to settle down. That's deception. That's wrong.

Learn to listen more. Hear what a person is saying. Are they excited about something? Get into that with them. Are they sad about something? Try to understand and help them. Putting ourselves in the other persons shoes says we care and are a friend. Hopefully, they will do the same when our turn comes around.

Learn to handle rejection. Do we always like the person who wants us? Just because the object of our dreams doesn't want to play with us, doesn't mean it's the end of the world. Consider it a blessing in disguise. Being with someone who is very hard to "get" means it may be even harder to keep them. Relationships should be easy-going, fun and enjoyable -- not a competition or a struggle.

Having expectations when meeting someone can kill a relationship faster than anything else. If we go on a date thinking "this is it...this is my new wife!" just know that your date will get this urgent feeling from you and feel the pressure to exit stage left in a hurry. 8-o

The human body is a powerful computer system with electrical currents and pulses running through it. These currents are magnetic and touch the currents and pulses of every other human being (or organism) in some way. As natural transmitters and receivers, you don't necessarily have to talk to express your thoughts to others: they FEEL it when close to you. Ever notice how pets will gravitate toward certain people and avoid others? Body language can fool people for only so long. You get the picture...

This is why it is important that we be ourselves, know ourselves and express what we really mean. Because there are more and more people out there who are in tune to this telepathic stuff, they can read you real fast. So keep your inner motivations and desires in line with what you are thinking and saying. You will begin to get more of what you really want in relationships and in life.

Bottom line...

None of us is perfect and there's no map to love that is foolproof. The road to true love has pitfalls and thorns. You can expect to get hurt somewhere along the way. But love is still worth having and fighting for. When in doubt, the age old principle still applies: "Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."

The above can be applied by both men and women.

Happy Hunting!

Re: Ladies... What do you want?

by tis2flyyy » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:00 pm

Momof5,

Sheeeeiiiiit, girl, I have nothing BUT respect for you. THAT is what I am talking 'bout. THAT lady has BOOT STRAPS and knows how to PULL THEM up. Mad love for you lady, mad love.

Hey Ya'll, it is some STRONG azz women on this site. I am awfully proud to be acquainted with them, and THAT's real!

For some, I feel like breaking out into a verse of "I'M EVERY WOMAN, IT'S ALL IN ME...do anythang you want done baby, I do it naturally, whooo, whooo, whooohhhh.......

Re: Ladies... What do you want?

by Momof5 » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:52 pm

deepseas,
I saw the movie and loved it.. Of course us women can be very forgiving when we see a shit load of effort in the relationship. There are still alot of men though that think we can interperet a series of burps and farts and get the message...I told my husband..I see you stop trying and I'm gone and then you'll spend all that energy that you weren't given to me trying to repair the hole that I leave.. He knows I ain't above leavin..My last relationship before him was abusive and I left when I was preggies with my 2nd baby.. He had threatened to make me lose it..Tried to also.. I packup and left and went to a homeless shelter..age 19. I had my 20th b day in that shelter and in the same week got my GED and My 1st ultrasound that said I had lost a twin.. So he ended up being half right. But I worked and saved and moved my ass out of the shelter and I won't tolerate no shit after that... I'm stronger than any man And I know it.. So he has to be a WILLING partner and nothing less. I know I'm worth the effort. I told him that straight up when we got together...I love him to death and he knows it..He also knows I got his back no matter what it is..I ain't a judgemental person and he loves that about me..Don't matter to me..king or bum...queen or cashier..just another person to me..

Re: Ladies... What do you want?

by tis2flyyy » Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:32 pm

deepseas,
Namaste, back at ya!
Good Job, you do a good job teaching.

Re: Ladies... What do you want?

by tis2flyyy » Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:30 am

deepseas,
Hey, thank you dear lady. I got chillz reading your reply. I have never met you in person, but I can tell, you are a one GREAT person. You have a good spirit. It comes across in your e-mails.

You are right, that is what I am looking for. Deepseas, raising three daughter sure have made you very insightful. Meet a sista half way, that is what EXACTLY what I am talking about.

& you are right. Right now, I do NOT want a full time 100% relationship - like marriage. Sheeeiiiit, I am having to much fun coming and going as I please. I ballroom dance on Tues and Sat nights, then I am a O.G. roller skater on Thurs and Sun nights. A MAN would stop all that action, huh?

Ok, I am going to pray in the 2006 and be very specific about my prayers. & I'll be on the lookout for my man - I just hope he is on the look out for me, also.

Deepseas, it was my great pleasure to be graced with your wisdom and insight. Thank you for taking the time to school me. I look forward to being schooled some more!

One Love
Big T

Re: Ladies... What do you want?

by tis2flyyy » Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:09 am

deepseas,

Thanks Mrs. Lady. You are a true gem. One of a kind, original!

I hear you LOUD and CLEAR about LA. My MAN is definitely NOT here. I have only lived here for like 8 years and I came here to put a WHOLE lot of distance between me and THAT man I mentioned previously. Don't you know, I have seen the dregs of society out here...black, white, green, and yellow men...all BULLSHIT.

I am a professional (CPA), serve on several boards. I meet LOTS of eligible men. Good wage earners, things of the like.. ALL BULLSHIT. Went to the churches - WRONG move - some of the biggest HOEZ are up in the church - out here. Went to the mosque (I am a muslim) - ANOTHER WRONG MOVE - seems like a sigle BLACK woman is NOT the thing up in the mosque. Men can have THREE wives, but if a woman does not choose a hisband, thhan the hell with her, she does not count. If she does not have a man representing her, then she may as well be invisiable. That is the one thing I despise about my religion.

& the women here in LA (if you want to call them that)...got these men ALL MESSED up. Broads dressing all crazy, paying for men, letting them live in their homes for free, driving and wrecking their cars and shit. What the hell is going on?

Back in D.C. (I am from Maryland), the Women to Men ratios (when I left) was 12 to 1. A woman back their is PAYING for a man!!! I am like, HELL NAW!!!!!! The man that I had (punk azz bee-yotch, I was like sharing this fool with three other women. He was a muslim also, told me "It's all good". I was like, the hell with that. BUT, that is not what actually made me leave. It was all of the abusive shit that came along with it.

But LA, it is the new babylon - anything goes out this way. I am so glad, deepseas, that you made it out. Boy, am I glad. My business is here and it is highly unlikely that I will move, since I am set and well on my way to making my 1st million this year. My prayers are in for this. So you see, I really don't be getting money from MEN, peray, I makes my OWN money. BUT, if I deal with a brotha, his azz gots to be PAID, as I am. Forget all that broke azz brotha shit. I am not trying to raise NOBODY, but my own son.

But the GOOD neews is this...My son, he is OUT! He attends the the Univ of Maryland and as long as I live and breathe, I will not allow him to live in LA. He can live in Cali, but not LA...I do not want my good, sweet little man corrupted by these foolz! That is why I sent him back home! & he is on the same page with his Mom!!

Another reason I sent him back home is, as you know, I am a single Mom. My son is growing into manhood. I am a firm believer that I can not teach him how to be a MAN as I am a woman. So, I asked my father to help me. My son calls him Dad, anyway. My son's father is deceased since he was 6 mths old. My Dad is the only father he knows. I NEVER brought any of the foolz I dated over my son's head in our home. Except that one, and he left an impression on the both of us. My son is like, "Mom, there is no man good enough for you". I told him, this is true, but Momma needs companionship too! .

Since all of the hoopla and hovoc my young years has generated as far as relationships are concerned, I have like TOTALLY chilled on dating. My companion - if you want to call him that is 75 years old (& I am 35m so what is up with that???). He is a person in LA that I can count on and genuinely cares about me, my son and our well being. I don't 'pimp" him, he is a person I love and respect. I would not call him my "boyfriend" but we do talk everyday on the phone, go to dinner or lunch at least once per week and have breakfast after he attends church on Sunday's.

The friendship is fulfilling, to a certain degree. For one, I can not imagine myself getting intimate with him, his daughter is my homegirl...beside, I think he is impotent..sshhh, don't tell I said that! Like I said, It get's real lonely. And as pimped out as I am, shit I still be wanting my own man too!

So, thanks for sharing deepseas, through your struggles and your perserverance, you made a WONDERFUL life for yourself. You have three beautiful, wonderful children, a husband that adores you, enough finances to keep your head above the water. God has truly blessed you. From yoir postgts and sharing, I know that you are very thankful. Your receipe for success works!

So listen up ya'll. It is time for us to collectively PRAY. Pray for all of these good and positive things you want in your life. & for those who do not believe, PRAYER is powerful, it does change things. No matter what your beliefs are, submit to your higher power and pray.

That is the word for the day.

Deepseas, you are the BEST!

Much Love Darling,
Tania

Re: Ladies... What do you want?

by Visitor » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:05 am

Tis2flyyy,

I'm happy for you and your son...you've accomplished much. I'm sure it hasn't been easy, but you did it! You must have your values in place, or I don't think you could have done this. I appreciate your kind words. Believe me, it was hard work and I earned every good day I have with this man. I know exactly where you're coming from.

Heads up...I've been played on by several, almost killed by my ex, supported one, kissed by a number of frogs and been left for a man! @.@ I've also been homeless and lived in my car for 6 months. After all that, I was disillusioned with men and struggled for YEARS raising 3 girls alone while working full time, going to school at night and getting extra money being a Navy Reservist -- all at the same time! I believe two wrongs don't make a right, so I figured I'd go it alone rather than take it out on an innocent man (or even a guilty one). Besides, I think it just keeps the chain of abuse, use and confusion going.

This meant driving a used car, shopping at garage sales, thrift shops and looking for all the freebie entertainment I could find for me and the girls. If there was a party, my girls went with me. If there was a concert or parade, we were there, if there was a free play at a local college, we were there. We did the beach, picnics, zoo, museums (cheap ones) and family and friend things for amusement. From the way I was raised and what I went through, I knew I wanted a better (quality) life for my girls, which I feel is having our basic needs met (food, clothing, shelter), education, fun, laughter and lots of love.

A MAJOR improvement in our lives was moving out of L.A. in '83. While I love L.A. and thought I loved the excitement, it's not a good place for finding (and keeping) true love and raising a family. It seemed to me that most everything is a "game" and somebody has to lose, I always had to watch my back (had my apartment cleaned out twice!), keep up with the Joneses to fit in, and distracted by the glitz, glamour and bullshit. It was always three steps forward, two steps back. Once I left, I was able to focus on my career, school, the girls and meet a whole different quality of men! Whenever I visit L.A. (for short visits) all the negatives about why I left come back to me. I could never return to that lifestyle.

[/i]If you put a bunch of crabs in boiling water, they're all pushing each other under trying to get out...thus, few if any get out.[/i]

Today, my girls are all educated, two have their own successful businesses, one is a great stay home mom, they all have their values in place, are married to wonderful men, and I am so glad I sacrificed for them. Life wasn't always rosy with them -- during their teens, they accused me of not giving them what they wanted -- to be like all the other kids with expensive clothes and cars and the freedom to go where they wanted when they wanted. But when they matured around 25, they all told me they were glad I didn't sell out because I did give them what they needed - values, self-esteem, motivation, inspiration, quality of life and love - things money cannot buy.

Through it all, I prayed -- and still do...every day.

I prayed for strength...I got it.

I prayed for health...I maintained it.

I prayed for income...I was able to to find it.

I prayed for true love...I have it.

I guess you could say I'm kind of like the stories of the http://www.first-school.ws/t/turtlehareen.htm - tortoise and the hare', and the three little pigs. Although the turtle was slow for the race, he stayed focused. Although the rabbit was fast, he got distracted. Eventually the turtle finished the race first because he stayed the course.

http://www-math.uni-paderborn.de/~odenb ... /pig2.html - With the pigs', the first two built their homes of straw and sticks, while the third built his of bricks. We all know what happened: a house built of strength and quality cannot be easily brought down. It takes faith, courage, persistence and pure hard work to do the right thing and not get discouraged.

It doesn't really matter to me what was done TO me...it only matters what my reaction to it is. I try not to take things personally and rise above the circumstances to correct the situation. In the end, I know that my small reactions and actions have a definite effect on the lives of all I touch and on the world.

It's said that each generation wants theirs faster, and that may be true. But the greatest person I know - my grandmother - showed me it is in the love and care we give to others is where our true happiness lies. When she died, she left me no money or "things." But she left me those things money simply cannot buy. When I think of who I love and admire most in this world, my grandma is the first that comes to mind...

Do what you have to do for the time being. But consider another way than gold digging for later because it cannot last forever...

As JTF says, "remember...you too can prevent forest fires," or words to that effect.

I luv your honesty, girlfriend!

Re: Ladies... What do you want?

by tis2flyyy » Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:53 am

Momof5,
Girrrllll, you be preachin!

Re: Ladies... What do you want?

by Momof5 » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:45 am

oops damn..didn't log in.. that last post was me. :lol:

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