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well I guess the long term payout costs were pleasing so it's a done deal

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/21/ ... index.html - Bush will force deal thru'

congrats to those who stand to gain billions from this @.@

and when does our currency get changed to "In Arabs we trust" and "United States of Arabia-America"

oooh snap, hold the phone: Frist is complaining about the deal and threatening legislature to prevent it. translation: I'm not getting any profits, either I'm cut in, or I'm gonna try to shut it down.
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deepseas,

yes I heard this, but I'm hearing a delay won't change many people's mind because of security.

bottom line is Israel wouldn't be asked to let Arabs run a major security area, therefore why should we.

the other thing that surprised me was Bill Frist and Delay complaining about the deal. usually they just nod along and defend whatever is happening in the interest of more personal financial profits.

I'm just waiting for the day when the currency is officially changed to "In Allah We Trust" or "God bless Saudi Arabia's money".

I've heard about more ties to Saudi's and the Bushes, as in more recent investments. but not surprised. I wouldn't be surprised to hear The White House is being put up for sale or major parts of it outsourced to Saudi Arabia as well.
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astonamous,

this Krugman NY Times writer must have got his degree from K-Mart. he's waaayyyy off. there's absolutely nothing wrong w/the port deal after looking more into it.

Al Qaeda doesn't provide the investments Bush, Rove, Cheney and a few others need, so they're "terrorists" and will be labeled as such until they start forking over the dough. UAE/Dubai does freely provide cash. huh-lowwwww....therefore, no problem and ports are safe as long as the money keeps coming through. (except I never got my cut yet... go figure??!)

if something wrong happens after the deal goes through. UAE will spend a little money to pretend they're looking for the terrorists like OJ, Robert Blake and Scott Peterson are spending their time looking for the real killers of their wives.

got it now? ;p

I shouldn't be joking about something so serious, but this is so ridiculously unreal, laughing will stop the screaming.

but right now there are protests in streets starting up, mostly involving teamsters and union workers. good! now that's normally their bread and butter for election time. yup, good ol greed! does it everytime.

but what is priceless is hearing Karl Rove endorse the deal. this is like John Gotti endorsing taking a ride w/someone after you've just had that long talk!
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deepseas,

wow, Port Authority of NY/NJ sues to block deal

makes sense since not only do they handle ports but all accesses in an out of NY/NJ, as well as was responsible for WTC

[Font size=2 face=v color=Green]Port authority sues to stop acquisition
Legal action comes after Dubai company announces delay

Friday, February 24, 2006; Posted: 2:22 p.m. EST (19:22 GMT)

NEW YORK (CNN) -- The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey filed a lawsuit and an injunction Friday in a New Jersey civil court to prevent a deal that would transfer control of the Newark container terminal to DP World.

The action -- filed against the Port Newark Container Terminal LLC and Peninsular & Oriental Steam Navigation Co. -- charges that the companies defaulted on their lease agreement with the port authority, by failing to notify it of its deal with DP World, a state-run port operations company based in the United Arab Emirates.

The actions do not refer directly to the ongoing political controversy where some have said the deal involving operations at six major U.S. ports risks national security.

Instead, the legal action charges that P&O, through its agreement with DP World, deprived the port authority of the "right to conduct a thorough review of its purchase," thereby violating certain "safeguards for the protection of persons and property" surrounding the facility.

P&O, a British company, has run facilities at the ports of New York, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Miami, New Orleans and Newark for several years.

Its purchase by DP World has raised concerns among members of Congress from both parties, who cite ties between the UAE and its banking center in Dubai to the September 11, 2001, hijackers.

The state of New Jersey also filed a lawsuit Thursday in the U.S. District Court, contending the lack of information regarding security arrangements provided by federal officials attached to the sale is a "threat to the state's homeland security." A similar lawsuit was filed in Miami earlier this week.

The latest legal moves come the day after DP World said it would delay taking over management of the operations involved, while continuing with its takeover of P&O.

The White House hailed the delay and said it would use the time to better sell the deal to critics.

"We believe it would be helpful to have some additional time to brief Congress about the facts and about the safeguards that are in place," White House spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters.

"We believe once Congress has a better understanding of the facts and the safeguards that are in place that they will be more comfortable with the transaction moving forward."

In explaining the delay, Ted Bilkey, chief operating officer of DP World, said in a statement issued Thursday: "We need to understand the concerns of the people in the U.S. who are worried about this transaction and make sure they are addressed to the benefit of all parties.

"Security is everybody's business."

The company said the delay would allow it to engage "in further consultations with the Bush administration and, as appropriate, congressional leadership and relevant port authorities to address concerns over future security arrangements." (Full story)

The move came after President Bush's top political adviser, Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove, said in a radio interview Thursday that Bush might accept a delay if doing so would give lawmakers a "comfort level" on the deal.

However, administration officials told CNN that Bush stood by the threat he made earlier this week to veto any congressional measure to delay the merger.

Administration officials went before a Senate committee Thursday to defend their approval of DP World's acquisition of P&O, which manages the facilities.

Bush also told reporters Thursday that the merger poses no security risk.

"This wouldn't be going forward if we weren't certain that our ports would be secure," he said. (Watch President Bush say the more people know, the more they will be comforted -- 2:01)

The deal was approved by an administration panel known as the Committee on Foreign Investments in the United States, which is led by the Treasury Department and includes representatives of the Defense, State and Commerce departments.

Administration officials say U.S. agencies such as the Coast Guard and the Customs and Border Protection service will be in charge of the security of the ports.

DP World's acquisition of P&O is scheduled to be completed March 2.

CNN's Jon Schienberg, Dana Bash and Andrea Koppel contributed to this report.[/font]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/24/ ... index.html - from cnn.com'
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deepseas,

umm now the sympathy card is being played to make the deal seem more friendly. @.@ $100 million given by UAE for Hurricane Katrina. but are Katrina victims seeing those funds???

go find the victims directly or be there when John Edwards is in New Orleans next month building homes for people.
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deepseas,

check this out

[Font size=2 face=v color=Green]GOP congressional leaders are working on a compromise that may allow a Dubai company to manage six U.S. ports, CNN has learned.[/font]

translation: we reviewed the profits and funds from Dubai and it is in accordance with our stay rich and keep others poor and in the dark plan, and it also benefits our personal lobbyists. Wal-Mart and other corporate giants we support will be most pleased. so it's a win-win situation.
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deepseas,

yeah I want to see the whole story when it comes out. won't be anything surprising though.

however, lawsuits won't be stopped. it's gonna be a fight all the way. and the REDs which sold family values and terrorism to win 2004 election have just contradicted themselves, esp. w/the same folks who wouldn't even sell major property to middle easterners let alone ports.
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well here's the story

GOP working on solution to ports deal
Voluntary 45-day investigation would address security issue

Saturday, February 25, 2006; Posted: 7:36 p.m. EST (00:36 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Republicans in Congress are crafting a solution under which the controversial deal allowing a state-owned Arab company to run some terminals at six U.S. ports could move forward.

The agreement would first have to pass a 45-day investigation focusing on the national security implications of the deal, several sources linked to the talks said.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee is encouraging DP World to ask a government review panel to kick-start the investigations, which is the best way to convince lawmakers the transaction won't jeopardize national security, a Frist aide said.

DP World, a company controlled by the United Arab Emirates, declined to comment Saturday.

P&O, the British company selling its operations at six major U.S. ports to DB World, has operations in 23 U.S. port cities. But it does not a have a monopoly at any of the ports to be sold, according to the company's Web site.

The Department of Homeland Security has released a document stating that DP World, which plans to take over some operations from British-based P&O in a deal worth $6.8 billion, will not "operate or manage any U.S. port."

The deal has been stalled amid bipartisan concerns over security. But if it goes through, DP World will operate 11 of the 43 terminals in the six ports: two of 14 in Baltimore, Maryland; one of five in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; one of three in Miami, Florida; two of five in New Orleans, Louisiana; four of 12 in Houston, Texas; and one of four in Newark, New Jersey, according to the Department of Homeland Security news release.

P&O also has service operations in 17 other cities, including New York, according to its Web site, which refers to the company as "the largest independent stevedore and terminal operator on the U.S. East and Gulf coasts with operations in most ports from Maine to Texas."

According to a dispatcher at the Dix-Fairway terminal in Corpus Christi, Texas -- one of the cities where P&O operates -- such services include container repair, cargo storage and stevedoring, which is the loading and unloading of cargo.

DP World's plans to buy P&O's operations has caused a bipartisan uproar in the United States, where politicians have opposed the deal because the company is owned by the United Arab Emirates.

Allaying security concerns

Under the proposed compromise aimed at simmering congressional concerns, DP World would have to request the special investigation, and it is not clear whether the company would.

GOP sources, however, say that lobbyists are encouraging DP World to embrace the proposal.

The White House has resisted calls to subject the deal to that level of scrutiny, saying the earlier review was thorough and addressed national security questions.

Though the White House says this level of review is unnecessary, it could prove to be a handy exit strategy to end a dramatic face-off with the GOP leadership and ultimately allow the deal to go through.

The deal underwent a 30-day review before it was initially approved, but the 45-day review will focus almost exclusively on national security and it would involve more senior administration officials.
UAE history

Critics say the UAE has had questionable ties to terrorists in the past and that its banking hub in Dubai was used to funnel money linked to the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, D.C.

There is concern among some that allowing the company to operate some terminals in U.S. ports will compromise national security, but the White House and DHS have vehemently defended the transaction.

In its news release, the DHS states that U.S. Customs and Border Protection and the Coast Guard, often with the help of local port authorities, provide security and screen cargo as it arrives in a port.

"DP World will not, nor will any other terminal operator, control, operate or manage any United States port," the news release states. "DP World will only operate and manage specific, individual terminals located within six ports."

On Saturday, New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine, a Democrat, criticized the deal, detailing the "many reasons why this transaction fails the basic test of common sense with regard to our nation's homeland security."

He said that 11 of the 9/11 hijackers traveled to the United States through Dubai's airport. Two of the suicide attackers were from the UAE.

In addition, Corzine said, "about half of the money used to finance" those attacks was wired to terrorists from Dubai banks. He added that Pakistani nuclear scientist A.Q. Khan has acknowledged working with a Dubai firm "to supply nuclear technology to Iran, Libya and North Korea."

"Dangerous men, tainted blood money and nuclear technology have moved across UAE borders," Corzine said.

He said that to protect the Port of Newark, considered by the FBI "the most vulnerable two miles in America," he directed New Jersey's attorney general and the regional port authority to file lawsuits to stop the deal. http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/24/ ... index.html - (More on lawsuits)'

Corzine also said there was a difference between a foreign-owned company like P&O and one owned by a foreign government like DP World.

"Dubai is not Britain," he said, adding that "port security does not begin and end at the pier in Newark." http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/25/ ... ndex.html/ - (More on what he said)'

President Bush has told reporters that the merger poses no security risk, and he has threatened to veto any legislation that seeks to block the transaction. It would be Bush's first use of the veto power.

The UAE has been a key U.S. ally in the region, a frequent stop for U.S. warships and aircraft and a supply depot for American troops in Iraq, he said. The nation also donated $100 million to Hurricane Katrina victims the week after the storm ravaged the Gulf Coast.

Faced with a firestorm on Capitol Hill, DP World agreed Thursday to delay the management takeover of the operations in the six U.S. ports, scheduled to commence March 2. http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/23/ ... ndex.html/ - (Full story)'

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/25/ ... index.html - cnn.com'
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deepseas,

this is beyond crazy. like Bill Maher said this past Friday, can you imagine Bush running for office in 2004 and saying "we're gonna allow our ports to be taken over by UAE" as one of his campaign promises.

but funny when slavery was the "in thing", Brits owned the ports. now that Iraq is the new slave, UAE will take over.

greed, greed, greed.... if they're not careful the powers that be will soon become slaves to the brown people w/more money. :lol:
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deepseas,

wow Lou Dobbs on on CNN is doing the damn thing. he's coming out and not fucking around, as if to say do you think we're stupid.

turn it on but I should have said something sooner, it was heated and deep. his guest was concerned the race card was being played against arabs over port deal only. wrong thing to say to Lou Dobbs.

because Dobbs then discusses problems w/the Bush administration and how this deal went down. of course the pro-port deal guest wasn't hearing it.

but now the teamsters are all riled up over this. they NEVER would have voted for Bush over this. oh well, ya got what ya wanted. I voted Indy-Green party, so don't blame me. B-)
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