R.I.P. O.D.B.
Dead Dirty Bastard
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Dead Dirty Bastard
Goddammit! What the fuck is going on this year? By New Year's Eve, Richard is going to be the ONLY living black artist left in America!!!
R.I.P. O.D.B.
R.I.P. O.D.B.
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Visitor,
NOt THE ODB!!!!
I hate when i find out deaths through mbs....
Jane
NOt THE ODB!!!!
I hate when i find out deaths through mbs....
Jane
I don't know Karate. But I know Ka-Razy!
Re: Dead Dirty Bastard
jane_haze,
Yeah he was fan of Richard Pryor too used a few samples of his on his first album
Yeah he was fan of Richard Pryor too used a few samples of his on his first album
I went to Zimbabwe. I know how white people feel in America now; relaxed! Cause when I heard the police car I knew they weren't coming after me!
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gypsyeyes76
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Re: Dead Dirty Bastard
bingolong,
I never heard the guy. My g/f says he got shot more often than some folks change they drawers...
PS... Are sample really a way of showing respect? Or are they an easy way to put out a record? What if James Brown had decided to not write his own music, but "borrow" pieces of what others had written. Where would music be today?
I never heard the guy. My g/f says he got shot more often than some folks change they drawers...
PS... Are sample really a way of showing respect? Or are they an easy way to put out a record? What if James Brown had decided to not write his own music, but "borrow" pieces of what others had written. Where would music be today?
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NickFlanagan
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Re: Dead Dirty Bastard
JTF,
ODB got shot more in the earlier stages of his career, and then mostly got shot at, but began getting missed more than hit. Most importantly, he was once arrested at a Burger King. He picked up a welfare check from a limo. He saved a young girl's life by lifting up a car that had trapped her underneath. And he dressed up like Rick James for the cover of his second album. In essence, he ruled!
I loved ODB's personality and first two albums--he was the most original voice in Wu-Tang Clan, had a great sense of humour, and it was always hard to predict what he would say next. That's why it seemed so appropriate that the Pryor voice would be sampled at the beginning of one of his songs--it helped set the tone of his style. I think to borrow a vocal sample is different than borrowing a musical one, JTF, and a completely credible thing to do.
But I also think that employing portions of other songs directly in a song that you made is not dissimilar to bands drawing on influences to create their own sound, as the Beatles and Rolling Stones did. I'm not saying it always occurs with sampling, but it definitely can(see the work of Prince Paul, DJ Premier or the RZA for some proof)...
but what I mostly came here to say is 'rest in peace, Russell Jones'.
ODB got shot more in the earlier stages of his career, and then mostly got shot at, but began getting missed more than hit. Most importantly, he was once arrested at a Burger King. He picked up a welfare check from a limo. He saved a young girl's life by lifting up a car that had trapped her underneath. And he dressed up like Rick James for the cover of his second album. In essence, he ruled!
I loved ODB's personality and first two albums--he was the most original voice in Wu-Tang Clan, had a great sense of humour, and it was always hard to predict what he would say next. That's why it seemed so appropriate that the Pryor voice would be sampled at the beginning of one of his songs--it helped set the tone of his style. I think to borrow a vocal sample is different than borrowing a musical one, JTF, and a completely credible thing to do.
But I also think that employing portions of other songs directly in a song that you made is not dissimilar to bands drawing on influences to create their own sound, as the Beatles and Rolling Stones did. I'm not saying it always occurs with sampling, but it definitely can(see the work of Prince Paul, DJ Premier or the RZA for some proof)...
but what I mostly came here to say is 'rest in peace, Russell Jones'.
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JTF,
The question is were would music be today without sampling!!!It's all musical evolution!!Ray Charles took the best of country and gospel to create that great soul music!!!Peolpe like the Beatles and the Rolling Stones always site blues and R&B artist that came before them as inspirations.Sampling has become the catalyst to evolve music.
Back in the day when the early hip hop DJ's started out they would only mix the best parts of albums or what was called the "breaks".That is really what sampling is now.The major reason that hiphop is winning nowadays is that it can draw from the best of any musical genre from blues to rock from country to folk!!!A major part of that is due to the use of sampling that opened up alot of more options than just disco and R&B from back in the days.Just think if it were not for exploration of sampling every song coming out would still sound like Sugar Hills Gangs "Rappers Delight" Because of this type of experimentation I am hearing songs I thought I would never hear.(For example Mos Def has a blues song on his new album that is tight)
Sure it can make it easy to [/i]make[/i] new songs with samples and hell I know people who don't respect the music they will rip from (though Nick sited a good list of some people who really do respect it and I think you would really apprecaite what they do)for a mother fucker to use somebody's sample and release it commercially nowadays can cost a grip.The original artist has to get paid so it is not a rip off by any means.Hell I don't think Sting or Chaka Khan minded performing with artist that sampled there music cause them motherfuckers are getting a second opportunity to collect on songs they made some 20 odd years
ago!!!8-o
Here is a funny bookend:I know two awesome keyboard players (I'm talking about cold on the Fender Rhodes!!)and I can't wait to incorporate what I have learned from my sampling of music into original compositions with the skills they have......but hell all they ever want to do when they get around me is sample!!!That shit piss me off man!!!![]:o(](./images/smilies/flaming_mad.gif "Flaming Mad")
Word Nick!!!
The question is were would music be today without sampling!!!It's all musical evolution!!Ray Charles took the best of country and gospel to create that great soul music!!!Peolpe like the Beatles and the Rolling Stones always site blues and R&B artist that came before them as inspirations.Sampling has become the catalyst to evolve music.
Back in the day when the early hip hop DJ's started out they would only mix the best parts of albums or what was called the "breaks".That is really what sampling is now.The major reason that hiphop is winning nowadays is that it can draw from the best of any musical genre from blues to rock from country to folk!!!A major part of that is due to the use of sampling that opened up alot of more options than just disco and R&B from back in the days.Just think if it were not for exploration of sampling every song coming out would still sound like Sugar Hills Gangs "Rappers Delight" Because of this type of experimentation I am hearing songs I thought I would never hear.(For example Mos Def has a blues song on his new album that is tight)
Sure it can make it easy to [/i]make[/i] new songs with samples and hell I know people who don't respect the music they will rip from (though Nick sited a good list of some people who really do respect it and I think you would really apprecaite what they do)for a mother fucker to use somebody's sample and release it commercially nowadays can cost a grip.The original artist has to get paid so it is not a rip off by any means.Hell I don't think Sting or Chaka Khan minded performing with artist that sampled there music cause them motherfuckers are getting a second opportunity to collect on songs they made some 20 odd years
ago!!!8-o
Here is a funny bookend:I know two awesome keyboard players (I'm talking about cold on the Fender Rhodes!!)and I can't wait to incorporate what I have learned from my sampling of music into original compositions with the skills they have......but hell all they ever want to do when they get around me is sample!!!That shit piss me off man!!!
Word Nick!!!
I went to Zimbabwe. I know how white people feel in America now; relaxed! Cause when I heard the police car I knew they weren't coming after me!
