tupac resurrection

[bumperhead]

Hey, has anyone seen "Tupac Resurrection"? It's a great documentary and the perfect template for a richard pryor bio pic.

Anyway,great site and peace to Mr.Pryor.

[bingolong]

bumperhead,
I feel you on that!!It is damn good!!It made me appreciate his contradictions a whole lot more.He could been a great leader if given enough time to mature and get past being in the limelight.I actually watched it twice,once with the commentary and the other regular.Great documentary and thanks for posting this!!

[dougdigitalpro]

bingolong,
I came on to post a topic on this, but I see someone beat me to it.
I purchased this last night and watched it with all the extras and it is a stunning documentary that only Tupac's moms could've pulled off. It is a testament to all the "other" so-called docs on Tupac that have been made that although some of them are informative, they were all missing one thing: Tupac. And that's what this doc finally provides.
It's amazing how much has happened since Tupac first burst on the scene in '92 and how much of a life he actually lived during those last four years of his life. He crammed more into that brief period than most of will get to do in fifty years.
I always felt a kinship with Pac because we were the same age and he echoed so much of what we were feeling in my generation. What we were REALLY feeling, not what the media wanted us to feel and there's so much i can say about the man and how he affected me and it runs so deep that I still can't grasp the fact that he is truly gone. And even though I never met him, I feel like he was a brother because I could relate to so many of the things he was feeling and going through as a black man living in the 90's.
I saw this doc at the theatre and I never saw an audience moved as much as that audience was at that showing. It was something to see and it revealed how most of us are STILL grieving his passing. A great life cut far too short and it's one of those things that left me a little colder about this world in general.

As far as it being a template for Mr. P's bio, I brought this up to Jen a while back and after watching it again last night I'm not sure now because this is the second doc I've seen to use this style of telling the subject's story and it may become gimmicky if it's used a third time. I think nobody could tell his own story like Mr. P through his comedy routine's and that may be the only new angle in doing a doc like that. A bio pic may be in order for Mr. P because looking back he has lived such an adventurous and legendary life that that may be the only way to convey it properly. Also after seeing Baadasssss this week, it restored some of my faith in the biopic also.
Either way would work, but a doc would have to be original in style and story telling.

[bumperhead]

dougdigitalpro,
Yeah, I've always considered Pac as the second coming of Malcolm X. Except Pac was like Malcolm both before and after prison, simultaneously. He came back to us, and like idiots, we killed him again. I think it's that deep.

Peace

[dougdigitalpro]

bumperhead,
Good analogy. It was weird during the beginning of all of this also because in 1992, Spike Lee's "Malcolm X" was being hyped to high heaven and I was a big fan of Spike's work then and Malcolm the movie was the culmination of all of Spike's work up to that point. He had reached his pinnacle and the film caused me to explore Malcolm the man much more and it never dawned that someone could rise up with a similar voice and rage. Then that same year, Tupac broke out and took off with his second solo album and it was on and poppin'.
It's a sad statement for black people in this country when a rapper, a performer, had to become a pseudo-revolutionary at such a young age and speak out on things other people in those positions shoulda been speaking out on. It scares me what the next incarnation of revolutionary will end up being in this country.
It harks back to what Pac said about how we keep asking to eat dinner and keep getting refused and after three weeks we're not asking anymore to come in, we're picking the lock and coming in kicking ass.
We asked during the civil rights movement.
We asked during the Panther movement.
We're not asking any more.

[saintgooner]

dougdigitalpro,
I don't know how to word this properly without causing offence,i'm probably gonna upset alot of people but fuck it i'm curious to all of your opinions so don't bite my head off!
How can you all seemingly totally support a convicted rapist?I absolutely love hip hop and was a huge fan of Pac,but now if i find myself bopping along to a song of his on the radio part of me feels bad.Over here we didn't get that much coverage of the alledged incident so i would truly love to be educated,but is the law system that bad over there that this was a set-up?I have been a victim off this heinous crime but would like to think that i'm fair minded when it comes to anything and don't believe everything i here.I would love for y'all to give me your views so i can listen to the Pac cd's i've got and not feel guilty.
Peace Wayne

[bumperhead]

saintgooner,
Damn, that felt like a stab to my heart. I would NEVER support (especially publicly) anyone I even suspected of rape. Pac was convicted of sexual assault--the equivalent of grabbing someone's behind without permission. Apparently, he didn't even do THAT. As he partially explains in the movie, he was at a party (with mostly strangers--he often did that) and the young lady was performing oral sex on several men on a crowded dance floor(including Pac). That's not a judgement, by the way--that's just what happened. Pac eventually left the party and went to his hotel room. The young lady stayed with several partiers in some room. (not sure who's room but Pac wasn't with them. He was asleep at that point.) As he recounts in an article I read a while back, Pac woke up to a commotion and the young lady crying that she'd been raped. Seriously, he was that separate from the incident. While he was in prison, he had PROSECUTORS writing to him saying stuff like, "Why are you in prison?" They knew that he hadn't forced himself on anyone.

[saintgooner]

bumperhead,
Like i said,i didn't mean to offend anyone but we don't get to hear everything over here.I will try to get hold of that documentary sometime soon.I have seen others but they don't go into much detail about that case so i will have to try and check that out.The fact you took the time to argue the man's case must mean something and i didn't say i believed the allegations i just wanted some info which you have provided.Thanks very much friend.
Reagards Wayne

[dougdigitalpro]

saintgooner,
Hey Wayne,
I'm glad you're honest about your feelings on Pac and expressed them in an intelligent way. You would be surprised at how rare that is when it comes to talking about him. Yes, it is that bad here in the U.S. when it comes to black males and it's even worse for the celebrity black male who speaks his mind and influences people! The story is this: the girl wasn't even doing other guys, just Pac on the dance floor.
My theory on it is this: Once the authorities heard this girl scream "rape", they went for what they knew. It was the perfect opportunity to nail Pac to the wall and they did. Pac was caught up in the vicious cycle of what most black men who try to stand up for black folks go through. They have to find out the hard truth that there is no real "black folk" living in this country. And they further find out that the very people they're trying to stand up for will be the first to cut their throat. It's the same truth that Malcolm, Martin and a host of other "activists" had to find out the hard way and that is what happened with this alleged "rape" case. Those guys knew they did something to the girl and rather than turn themselves in and fess up to the crime, they left Pac out to dry and when he went to jail, most of those cats abadoned him. Pac's guilt was trusting folks to do the right thing too much and it's a hard pill to swallow for the brother who wants to do the right thing and his own won't get behind him for the greater cause. This is the reason why we're so lost and so confused as black men here in America. We have no firm base to stand on for anything. We are not true black people, we have to much european white blood in us and that's the illusion that trips us up most and it defintely tripped Pac up. America knows this and knows the power and potential in the American black man and this is why he is determined to destroy him at every turn and this was more than the case with Tupac Shakur. He came from a very militant pro black background and once they could nail him on something, they made sure they did. I didn't mean to sound long winded, but I wanted to explain the deeper aspects of why IT IS that BAD in America for "black folks".
Don't stop listening to Pac, man. You're listening to an innocent man and please go get the doc "Ressurection", it's the most accurate portrayal of the man and his times.

[Smokey H]

dougdigitalpro,

Steve,

You NAILED it!!!

BRAV-O!!!!!!

-Smokey